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Julie Swetnick in an interview with John Heilemann on Showtime's 'The Circus.' (Screenshot via YouTube/Showtime)
Julie Swetnick in an interview with John Heilemann on Showtime's 'The Circus.' (Screenshot via YouTube/Showtime)

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Third Kavanaugh accuser Julie Swetnick: ‘I don’t think he belongs on the Supreme Court’

By WITW Staff on September 27, 2018

Julie Swetnick — the third woman to come forward with allegations of sexual misconduct against Brett Kavanaugh — said that all the accusations against President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee should be investigated, and that he does not belong on the nation’s high court.

Swetnick made her comments in an interview with John Heilemann for Showtime’s The Circus, and broadcast for the first time in a clip aired on MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Thursday morning. The full interview will air on Sunday night on Showtime.

“Brett Kavanaugh is going for a seat, where he is going to have that seat on the Supreme Court for the rest of his life. And if he is going to have that seat legitimately, all of these things should be investigated,” she told Heilemann.

“From what I experienced firsthand, I don’t think he belongs on the Supreme Court,” Swetnick said. “I just want the facts to come out and I want it to be just and I want the American people to have those facts and judge for themselves.”

“That’s not the type of behavior anybody at any age should do. I don’t think women should be treated that way and I don’t think any human being should treat people that way,” she said.

Discussing the timing of her allegations being made public one day before Thursday’s Senate Judiciary Committee hearing into allegations made against Kavanaugh by Christine Blasey Ford, she said, “it just turned out that way.”

“It wasn’t that I wanted to come out one day before the hearing. It just turned out that way. This is something that occurred a long time ago. And it’s not that I just thought about it. It’s been on my mind ever since the occurrence,’ she said.

In a sworn declaration, which Swetnick’s attorney, Michael Avenatti posted to social media on Wednesday morning, Swetnick identifies Brett Kavanaugh as being among boys who, at parties in the early 1980s, spiked drinks “to cause girls to lose their inhibitions and their ability to say ‘No’.”

Swetnick, who has worked for the U.S. government in several capacities, claims to have witnessed Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge’s efforts to “‘spike’ the ‘punch’ at house parties … with drugs and/or grain alcohol,” in order to cause girls “to become inebriated and disoriented so they could then be ‘gang raped’ in a side room or bedroom by a ‘train’ of numerous boys.”

While Swetnick does not accuse Kavanaugh of assaulting her, she claims that he and Judge were present at a party in 1982 when she was gang raped by a group of boys after her drink was spiked “using Quaaludes or something similar.”

Watch a clip of Julie Swetnick’s interview below:


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