Another juror from Bill Cosby’s sexual assault trial has spoken out about the high-profile case, becoming the first jury to publicly reveal his identity. Bobby Dugan, 21, appeared on ABC’s Good Morning America Monday and said flat-out, “I thought he was guilty.” But, Dugan noted, he thinks the jury ultimately ended up deadlocked due to a lack of evidence presented by the prosecution. “If there was other evidence, more substantial evidence, we would’ve had a better verdict than deadlocked.
Dugan painted a picture similar to what other jurors who have spoken out anonymously about the deliberations have described: Tensions running high among the 12 jurors. “The most intense moment I think was when there was about four people crying in the room. One was out in the hallway pacing, visibly upset.”
Dugan also said Cosby’s celebrity loomed large among jurors, and likely led to them deliberating for as long as they did — 52 hours over the course of six days. But, for him, Cosby’s guilt hinged on a single word the disgraced comic refused to say during a deposition given more than a decade ago in response to Andrea Constand’s accusations. “When they were asking him if he would use the word consent, he said, ‘I wouldn’t use that word.’ And I was like you pretty much said it there yourself, man.”
On Sunday, two of Cosby’s representatives disputed news reports that emerged on Friday indicating Cosby was planning to launch a speaking tour during which he would counsel young men on how to avoid having sexual assault allegations made against them.
“The town hall meetings are not about sexual assault,” Ebonee Benson, a publicist for Cosby, said during an appearance on CNN. “I will repeat. These town hall meetings are not about sexual assault.” Instead, Benson said, media “sensationalism” distorted what she and her colleague, Andrew Wyatt, had said while speaking on an Alabama morning show.
“This went way beyond a comment made from an interview by my colleague a couple of days ago when we initially talked about the town hall meetings, it was about restoration of legacy,” Benson said. “To take something meant to talk about the restoration of this man’s legacy that was destroyed by the media before he even had a chance to step into the courtroom. That’s what this is about.”
During the morning show appearance, Benson had said, “The laws are changing, the statute of limitations for victims of sexual assault are being extended, so this is why people need to be educated on a brush against the shoulder,” said Benson. “Because anything at this point can be considered sexual assault and it is a good thing to be educated about the laws.”
Watch the full interview with Dugan, the juror, below.
And watch a clip of Benson’s full on CNN along with a clip from the Alabama morning show below.